Moodle

Ok,

Firstly, there's now a script to convert your Journals to Assignments if you need to here:

http://cvs.moodle.org/contrib/tools/journal2assignment/

My next step is to basically make the Online Assignment work like Journal did when you clicked on Journal in the Activities block, i.e., a list of all the journals and responses. This will happen via ../mod/assignment/type/online/all.php. I need to think of somewhere to make the link to this view though. It could work for any type if the all.php script exists.

More space for teacher comments where? Do you just mean a bigger edit box?

IMHO the default options for Assignment more-or-less reflect what Journal did - tell your users to ignore any options they don't like. I know what you mean though, user 'fear' is always a result of creeping features.

I'm not sure this can go into 1.9 (although I'd like it to, there are no db changes) but I think 1.8 is out of the frame.

I guess this will be a Moodle 2.0 feature, to coincide with the removal of Journal from core.

This is now in head. I'd appreciate anybody who is interested giving it a try.

I struggled to think of a really obvious way to link this in. When you click the Assignments in the Activities block, Online Text assignments (the name) are now highlighted and that takes you to this page.

I'm going to close this as done. Any issues come up... please reopen as appropriate,

thanks

reopening, it does not respect the mod/assignment:view capability

Noted, will sort asap.

No checks for the view capability.

BTW.... when you show the list of Assignments, it currently does not check the view capability for each individual assignment. You get a link to an error if you do not have the right to view it. Is this a bug or is putting all these checks in a step too far?

That should have said "now checks for......", which is different

thanks for the fix

The journal interface should not be deleted – we appreciate the diversity it provides & faculty USE this tool. The strong point of keeping this option-- all the student posts and each of associated grade/comment areas all appear in one screen. This is radically different from all other options availalbe through activities – see online text image also attached for contrast

The journal interface should not be deleted – we appreciate the diversity it provides & faculty USE this tool. The strong point of keeping this option-- all the student posts and each of associated grade/comment areas all appear in one screen. This is radically different from all other options availalbe through activities – see online text image also attached for contrast

This is the closest thing we can find to the journal tool - with that exqusite 'all on one page' interface. Here "Allow quick grading" is selcted - so faculty can grade in one window & open student files in a sub-window – BUT, check out the lovely span tag that appears in the comment field after the individual student item is graded!?

NEW BUG?!

Please reopen this.
1. The journal module is worth maintaining (see images)
2. there is a bug in online assignment – when the tool is set up to mimic journal (as close as possible) when "Allow quick grading" is selected, when faculty grade, a span tag appears in the student comment area.

We feel strongly that journal should be maintained - faculty have STRONGLY requested a space where all submitted student texts appears in one space/screen, and where grading can occur without moving to another space/screen. This module provides needed diversity, it is different enough from other activities to note the differences & to keep them in the core.

Additionally, when 'online assignment' is set up to try to mimic journal, there's a bug - span tag appears in the comment area when a grade is entered.

I think it\s a done deal that Journal is being removed in 2.0. This is not really the place to discuss the point though. You should raise this in the forums. However, the bottom line is that someone has to maintain it.

If you have specific recommendations as to how the Online Assignment interface can be improved these are welcome but, yes, a new bug report is appropriate with as much detail as possible.

Howard, just been looking at this, and

1) where are the links to the all.php overview? It's currently not accessible.

2) using the "highlight" style on a header is, erm, not good. I took that out and tidied up a bit.

Deb, point taken about the grading interface. The reason there is the new one in assignments is so that we can cope with larger classes and longer texts. Note that once you've opened one you can edit, save and move to the next one all in one easy motion. This mechanism was supposed to replace the "all in one page" idea in a scalable way.

I agree that the current assignment interface could optionally show ALL the text when you know the texts are short and the class is smaller.

Martin,

It's well over a year since I did this so, to be honest, I don't remember much about it. I do recall struggling to think of a sensible way to link to this. The above says....

"When you click the Assignments in the Activities block, Online Text assignments (the name) are now highlighted and that takes you to this page."

I don't have a running copy of 2.0 anywhere to check... but it should still work unless something else has broken it (or someone has removed it) since. let me know if there's a problem and I'll take a look.