Moodle

Allow Gradebook 1.9.5+ to show correct points earned and correct percent earned

Details

  • Type: Improvement Improvement
  • Status: Open Open
  • Priority: Minor Minor
  • Resolution: Unresolved
  • Affects Version/s: 1.9.5
  • Fix Version/s: None
  • Component/s: Gradebook
  • Environment:
    1.9.5+
  • Affected Branches:
    MOODLE_19_STABLE

Description

Based this forum http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=133034 and testing it appears there is no current way to accomplish all the following simultaneously:
1. Display correct number of points (reall) earned by student to date
2. Display correct number of points (real) possible to date
3. Display correct percent earned by student to date
4. Include selected items for extra credit
5. Calculate items as NULL rather than zero for those items which the student has not attempted
6. Group items based on teacher preference (some want grouped by unit or chapter, others want by semester, or some other combination)
7. All while avoiding using "graded" and "to be graded" categories to correctly calculate items as described here: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Grades_FAQ#How_can_I_grade_some_of_my_activities_without_the_results_affecting_my_students.27_course_total.3F

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Thomas Robb added a comment -

There are cases where teachers really do want to give a zero for non-submitted grades. The settings right now (using v. 1.9.7) do not seem to work. The grade report (Preferences/Grades selected for column averages). It doesn't matter whether "All grades" or "Non-empty grades" is selected. The null values for grade items are still ignored!

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Thomas Robb added a comment - There are cases where teachers really do want to give a zero for non-submitted grades. The settings right now (using v. 1.9.7) do not seem to work. The grade report (Preferences/Grades selected for column averages). It doesn't matter whether "All grades" or "Non-empty grades" is selected. The null values for grade items are still ignored!
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Kathryn Fortin added a comment -

We have a couple client sites looking for a way to give students a way to see where they stand in the course at any time on what they have completed so far. I think this would give students this options. This would have both hidden and empty grades being excluded.

Or maybe instructors could just check off the items that they wanted included in this calculation for the user report?

As it is now students have to compute their own calculations which can become complex.

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Kathryn Fortin added a comment - We have a couple client sites looking for a way to give students a way to see where they stand in the course at any time on what they have completed so far. I think this would give students this options. This would have both hidden and empty grades being excluded. Or maybe instructors could just check off the items that they wanted included in this calculation for the user report? As it is now students have to compute their own calculations which can become complex.
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Martin Soupcoff added a comment -

This would be a good option to have to be able to select which items go towards the course total because the alternatives don't always fix the problem.

If sum of grades is the aggregation of choice, then empty grades are like zeroes so the student will look like they are failing until the end of the semester.

If weighted mean is aggregation of choice, then selecting "Aggregate only non-empty grades" would work but would have a fatal flaw. If a user did not turn in an assignment and a zero was not entered by the teacher than the student benefits because that grade item is excluded from the total. This would give the student a higher grade than they should receive.

I like the idea of being able to check items that go towards the total.

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Martin Soupcoff added a comment - This would be a good option to have to be able to select which items go towards the course total because the alternatives don't always fix the problem. If sum of grades is the aggregation of choice, then empty grades are like zeroes so the student will look like they are failing until the end of the semester. If weighted mean is aggregation of choice, then selecting "Aggregate only non-empty grades" would work but would have a fatal flaw. If a user did not turn in an assignment and a zero was not entered by the teacher than the student benefits because that grade item is excluded from the total. This would give the student a higher grade than they should receive. I like the idea of being able to check items that go towards the total.

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