From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Friday, 4 March 2005, 09:33 AM:
Also, perhaps there should actually be a setting for groups names.
In looking at the code it seems like scales and events always get backed up/restored without asking for a preference as well.
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Friday, 4 March 2005, 12:28 PM:
Also, group images don't seem to be backed up/restored?
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Saturday, 5 March 2005, 08:54 AM:
Groups are always saved but group members only if you select to backup users.
Only used scales (course_scale_used() function) are included automatically, and course events too. Here it's an ordered list of my opinions:
1-Having a setting for groups could be a nightmare because modules running under groups in the original course have to be modified to take care of this setting to delete their group info (and group mode). It's possible to implement it but perhaps it's too late for 1.5...
2-About groups too, yes, images should be included in backup and restore! I've added it to my todo list (backup/CHANGES_14_15.txt). My fault!
3-Having a setting for scales it's really a wrong idea and I think that the current approach (export used scales) is the correct one. We can, anyway, improve it a bit to detect only scales used by modules being exported (currently all scales in any module in the course are being included). This involves creating a new function in backup/lib.php called backup_scale_used() really similar to the course based but skipping not selected modules. For 1.5?
4.-And finally, events. A setting for this could be really nice and easy to implement. As such info in not related to the rest of the backup (like groups or scales) having a check to decide it is really a good idea. For 1.5?
Ciao 
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Monday, 7 March 2005, 04:29 AM:
Sorry, my bad, I just did cvs annotate on restorelib.php and saw that the check for backup->users for group members was added after our last merge. Should have checked that before posting the bug report.
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Tuesday, 8 March 2005, 01:38 AM:
NP! 
Anyway, we have to decide about points 3 and 4 (Martin D added to the discussion).
Are my theories correct? Must I include them in my CHANGES_14_15 list?
Ciao
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Thursday, 10 March 2005, 04:18 AM:
> 1-Having a setting for groups could be a nightmare because modules running
> under groups in the original course have to be modified to take care of this
> setting to delete their group info (and group mode). It's possible to implement it
> but perhaps it's too late for 1.5...
I agree that it would be a nightmare, because of all the modules and how they work with groups. Maybe for 1.6? I mean, I'd love it for 1.5 but it may be unrealistic.
> 3-Having a setting for scales it's really a wrong idea and I think that the current
> approach (export used scales) is the correct one. We can, anyway, improve it a bit
> to detect only scales used by modules being exported (currently all scales in any
> module in the course are being included). This involves creating a new function in
> backup/lib.php called backup_scale_used() really similar to the course based but
> skipping not selected modules. For 1.5?
+1, but with a setting for it, like:
there are scales, but they're not used anywhere. Do you still want to export them?
> 4.-And finally, events. A setting for this could be really nice and easy to
> implement. As such info in not related to the rest of the backup (like groups or
> scales) having a check to decide it is really a good idea. For 1.5?
Yup! Sounds good. +1
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Wednesday, 12 October 2005, 10:44 AM:
bump! anything happened on this one?
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Friday, 14 October 2005, 03:52 AM:
Hey,
this was lost in the abyss of my bugs... 
Should I try to do it or, perhaps, you have intentions to do so?
About 3, perhaps the setting should be a popup between:
- Needed Scales (all those being used by selected activities).
- All Scales (all those being used by any activity in the course, like it's now).
About 4, a simple Y/N will be enough, I think.
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Wednesday, 3 May 2006, 03:48 AM:
Hehe,
what if....we postpone this some more months? :-P
...orr perhaps somebody else could try it after 1.6 branch... I estimate that my time availability next 5-6 moths is going to be really short! But moodling, of course! B-)
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From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Friday, 4 March 2005, 09:33 AM:
Also, perhaps there should actually be a setting for groups names.
In looking at the code it seems like scales and events always get backed up/restored without asking for a preference as well.
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Friday, 4 March 2005, 12:28 PM:
Also, group images don't seem to be backed up/restored?
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Saturday, 5 March 2005, 08:54 AM:
Groups are always saved but group members only if you select to backup users.
Only used scales (course_scale_used() function) are included automatically, and course events too. Here it's an ordered list of my opinions:
1-Having a setting for groups could be a nightmare because modules running under groups in the original course have to be modified to take care of this setting to delete their group info (and group mode). It's possible to implement it but perhaps it's too late for 1.5...
2-About groups too, yes, images should be included in backup and restore! I've added it to my todo list (backup/CHANGES_14_15.txt). My fault!
3-Having a setting for scales it's really a wrong idea and I think that the current approach (export used scales) is the correct one. We can, anyway, improve it a bit to detect only scales used by modules being exported (currently all scales in any module in the course are being included). This involves creating a new function in backup/lib.php called backup_scale_used() really similar to the course based but skipping not selected modules. For 1.5?
4.-And finally, events. A setting for this could be really nice and easy to implement. As such info in not related to the rest of the backup (like groups or scales) having a check to decide it is really a good idea. For 1.5?
Ciao
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Monday, 7 March 2005, 04:29 AM:
Sorry, my bad, I just did cvs annotate on restorelib.php and saw that the check for backup->users for group members was added after our last merge. Should have checked that before posting the bug report.
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Tuesday, 8 March 2005, 01:38 AM:
NP!
Anyway, we have to decide about points 3 and 4 (Martin D added to the discussion).
Are my theories correct? Must I include them in my CHANGES_14_15 list?
Ciao
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Thursday, 10 March 2005, 04:18 AM:
> 1-Having a setting for groups could be a nightmare because modules running
> under groups in the original course have to be modified to take care of this
> setting to delete their group info (and group mode). It's possible to implement it
> but perhaps it's too late for 1.5...
I agree that it would be a nightmare, because of all the modules and how they work with groups. Maybe for 1.6? I mean, I'd love it for 1.5 but it may be unrealistic.
> 3-Having a setting for scales it's really a wrong idea and I think that the current
> approach (export used scales) is the correct one. We can, anyway, improve it a bit
> to detect only scales used by modules being exported (currently all scales in any
> module in the course are being included). This involves creating a new function in
> backup/lib.php called backup_scale_used() really similar to the course based but
> skipping not selected modules. For 1.5?
+1, but with a setting for it, like:
there are scales, but they're not used anywhere. Do you still want to export them?
> 4.-And finally, events. A setting for this could be really nice and easy to
> implement. As such info in not related to the rest of the backup (like groups or
> scales) having a check to decide it is really a good idea. For 1.5?
Yup! Sounds good. +1
From (penny at catalyst.net.nz) Wednesday, 12 October 2005, 10:44 AM:
bump! anything happened on this one?
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Friday, 14 October 2005, 03:52 AM:
Hey,
this was lost in the abyss of my bugs...
Should I try to do it or, perhaps, you have intentions to do so?
About 3, perhaps the setting should be a popup between:
About 4, a simple Y/N will be enough, I think.
From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Wednesday, 3 May 2006, 03:48 AM:
Hehe,
what if....we postpone this some more months? :-P
...orr perhaps somebody else could try it after 1.6 branch... I estimate that my time availability next 5-6 moths is going to be really short!
But moodling, of course! B-)
- All Scales (all those being used by any activity in the course, like it's now).
About 4, a simple Y/N will be enough, I think. From Eloy Lafuente (stronk7 at moodle.org) Wednesday, 3 May 2006, 03:48 AM: Hehe, what if....we postpone this some more months? :-P ...orr perhaps somebody else could try it after 1.6 branch... I estimate that my time availability next 5-6 moths is going to be really short!