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  1. Moodle
  2. MDL-13670

Allow metacourse to display grades from child courses

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    • Type: New Feature
    • Status: Open
    • Priority: Major
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • Affects Version/s: 1.9
    • Fix Version/s: STABLE backlog
    • Component/s: Gradebook
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    • Affected Branches:
      MOODLE_19_STABLE

      Description

      Our users have asked to be able to view grades from multiple courses in one place. This seems like something that a metacourse ought to be able to do. Could we have a setting "view child grades" in the gradebook? All the permissions and inclusion criteria should be easy to manage since the metacourse is already doing all that. It just has to harvest the grades and add them to the gradebook.

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            robert74 Robert Sturgess added a comment -

            I would like to have a metacourse that pulls the grades from child courses but is able to weight the assignments differently to the weighting in the child courses. This fix sounds like it might do the job.

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            robert74 Robert Sturgess added a comment - I would like to have a metacourse that pulls the grades from child courses but is able to weight the assignments differently to the weighting in the child courses. This fix sounds like it might do the job.
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            johnboundy John Boundy added a comment -

            I am really sweating on this coming through as I had hoped to use it for an e-learning innovations project in the ACT. Need employers of apprentices to easily review grades of their employees rather than searching multiple courses. Ideally for my use the meta course would as a default shaow the overall course grade from child courses, and then combine thes eto a metacourse grade. Does this make sense? Our metacourse may have over 20 child courses eventually, each with multiple grade items, so moving all through may make the metacourse grade book to complex to grasp.

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            johnboundy John Boundy added a comment - I am really sweating on this coming through as I had hoped to use it for an e-learning innovations project in the ACT. Need employers of apprentices to easily review grades of their employees rather than searching multiple courses. Ideally for my use the meta course would as a default shaow the overall course grade from child courses, and then combine thes eto a metacourse grade. Does this make sense? Our metacourse may have over 20 child courses eventually, each with multiple grade items, so moving all through may make the metacourse grade book to complex to grasp.
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            bfriesen B. Friesen added a comment -

            I totally support this concept, but in my situation I'd want the grades of the multiple metacourses (the actual course modules) to show up in the child course (the program shell).

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            bfriesen B. Friesen added a comment - I totally support this concept, but in my situation I'd want the grades of the multiple metacourses (the actual course modules) to show up in the child course (the program shell).
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            jago Jago Brown added a comment -

            I think some of our Vocational courses could be split into one moodle course per module, to make them lighter & more manageable. Howerver I suspect teachers would then ask for a grade book which combines the work in all the module courses to give them an overview. This is why I looked in the Tracker to see if other had similar thoughts. To avoid huge gradebooks the meta course could initially show just the aggregated total from each child course, rather than every single activity? Another thought to avoid over complicating moodle was to pull the child course gradebooks into a spreadsheet ,or construct a web page on our intranet .

            In response to B.Friesen query above, it might be easier if child course gradebooks were meta course aware, and automatically generated a link to the meta course gradebook, so users could easily see the overview if desired ?

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            jago Jago Brown added a comment - I think some of our Vocational courses could be split into one moodle course per module, to make them lighter & more manageable. Howerver I suspect teachers would then ask for a grade book which combines the work in all the module courses to give them an overview. This is why I looked in the Tracker to see if other had similar thoughts. To avoid huge gradebooks the meta course could initially show just the aggregated total from each child course, rather than every single activity? Another thought to avoid over complicating moodle was to pull the child course gradebooks into a spreadsheet ,or construct a web page on our intranet . In response to B.Friesen query above, it might be easier if child course gradebooks were meta course aware, and automatically generated a link to the meta course gradebook, so users could easily see the overview if desired ?
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            stronk7 Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment -

            NOTE: This issue was assigned to the STABLE backlog without complete triaging process. Marking it as triaged, but with this note for future reference.

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            stronk7 Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment - NOTE: This issue was assigned to the STABLE backlog without complete triaging process. Marking it as triaged, but with this note for future reference.
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            henestofelj James Henestofel added a comment -

            I would like just the opposite as the title says. I would like any assignments built into the metacourse to show up in the child courses. We have a script that pulls all the grades from moodle courses and inputs into our ERP system. We can't pull from the meta course and be able to differentiate which course the students are in without more querying. Or even the possibility of entering grades within the meta course and the final grades being pumped into the child courses because all we need in the child courses are the final grades.

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            henestofelj James Henestofel added a comment - I would like just the opposite as the title says. I would like any assignments built into the metacourse to show up in the child courses. We have a script that pulls all the grades from moodle courses and inputs into our ERP system. We can't pull from the meta course and be able to differentiate which course the students are in without more querying. Or even the possibility of entering grades within the meta course and the final grades being pumped into the child courses because all we need in the child courses are the final grades.
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            sjaffredo Sébastien Jaffrédo added a comment -

            Technically, the "child" course is actually the master course, where the "metacourse" is in effect the slave course. That's because enrollments in the child course are automatically repeated in the metacourse.

            I think it's a natural extension of the metacourse link to display the grades of different metacourses in the child course.

            Is there a similar ticket for Moodle 2 ? That's where it would be needed.

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            sjaffredo Sébastien Jaffrédo added a comment - Technically, the "child" course is actually the master course, where the "metacourse" is in effect the slave course. That's because enrollments in the child course are automatically repeated in the metacourse. I think it's a natural extension of the metacourse link to display the grades of different metacourses in the child course. Is there a similar ticket for Moodle 2 ? That's where it would be needed.
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            daveyboond Steve Bond added a comment -

            I think it just needs someone to add 2.2 to the "affects version" field. As issue creator, I don't have permission to do that.

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            daveyboond Steve Bond added a comment - I think it just needs someone to add 2.2 to the "affects version" field. As issue creator, I don't have permission to do that.
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            stuart Peter Ruthven-Stuart added a comment -

            I second the comments by Sébastien J, B. Friesen, and James H. Having metacourse grades reflected / displayed in child courses would also be extremely useful.

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            stuart Peter Ruthven-Stuart added a comment - I second the comments by Sébastien J, B. Friesen, and James H. Having metacourse grades reflected / displayed in child courses would also be extremely useful.
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            nancy.hoke Nancy K Hoke added a comment -

            I wish to add my vote for grades from the metacourse being added to the students' accounts in the child course. Very helpful.

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            nancy.hoke Nancy K Hoke added a comment - I wish to add my vote for grades from the metacourse being added to the students' accounts in the child course. Very helpful.

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