Moodle
  1. Moodle
  2. MDL-13912

Improvements to the search interface of admin's list of users

    Details

    • Type: Improvement Improvement
    • Status: Open
    • Priority: Major Major
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • Affects Version/s: 1.9
    • Fix Version/s: None
    • Component/s: Administration, Usability
    • Labels:
      None
    • Environment:
      Any
    • Database:
      Any
    • Affected Branches:
      MOODLE_19_STABLE
    • Rank:
      2010

      Description

      I find the "Browse a List of Users" in Moodle 1.9 less efficient that in Moodle 1.8. The ability to click on the first letter of a users first name of last name and the search option was great.

      Could we bring it back? It could easily fit on top of the filter options in Moodle 1.9.

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          Helen Foster added a comment -

          I suggest we have the filter option in bulk user actions only and just have the search box and alphabet name search in browse list of users.

          Discussion about this issue here: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=92242

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          Helen Foster added a comment - I suggest we have the filter option in bulk user actions only and just have the search box and alphabet name search in browse list of users. Discussion about this issue here: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=92242
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          Nicklas Lindgren added a comment -

          I vote no. See the forum thread for the motivation.

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          Nicklas Lindgren added a comment - I vote no. See the forum thread for the motivation.
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          Ryan Smith added a comment -

          I agree with the search box suggestion...when I first upgraded to 1.9 and went to the browse list of users to delete someone's account...I said to myself "where in the world is the search button?"

          It would be more intuitive if the search button was back.

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          Ryan Smith added a comment - I agree with the search box suggestion...when I first upgraded to 1.9 and went to the browse list of users to delete someone's account...I said to myself "where in the world is the search button?" It would be more intuitive if the search button was back.
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          Ryan Smith added a comment -

          Actually, the more I look at the new design in 1.9 I believe it is a step back.

          I would include the old search box as the standard search....a search box that searches all fields like it does now. This is beneficial for us admins that need to go in to the admin settings quickly and search for a name or email address.

          Then, a button, like it has now, that says 'Show Advanced'. In here you can put the new, powerful, filter-based searching options. That way we can click the advanced search to drill down our searching if needed.

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          Ryan Smith added a comment - Actually, the more I look at the new design in 1.9 I believe it is a step back. I would include the old search box as the standard search....a search box that searches all fields like it does now. This is beneficial for us admins that need to go in to the admin settings quickly and search for a name or email address. Then, a button, like it has now, that says 'Show Advanced'. In here you can put the new, powerful, filter-based searching options. That way we can click the advanced search to drill down our searching if needed.
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          Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment -

          Yesterday at Moodle HQ we were discussing about this issue. But we didn't agree anything.

          Personally I think that the "initials" and "search into everything" old methods were really usable (although not too much accessible). In the other hand, the new filter-based approach is enormously powerful sometimes (when you don't know the name/email, or want to make some special searches).

          So, the key here is if we all want the both systems to exist and how we make them to co-exist? Assuming all we want both systems available... what would be the better way to do so:

          1) Simple put both together, one above the other, unrelated?
          2) Make the old approach the default one, while putting the new one under the "advanced" switch?
          3) Add the old one (initials) under the advanced settings (note it's really supported now "name begins with...) with the old interface? And make the "simple" search to search both under complete name and email?
          4) Add some setting to decide what system to use, making them exclusive?

          I really think that's the key. Both methods have fans. Feel free to comment how to integrate both. Also, some accessibility solutions for the initials should arrive, but that isn't the objective of this bug.

          Ciao

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          Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment - Yesterday at Moodle HQ we were discussing about this issue. But we didn't agree anything. Personally I think that the "initials" and "search into everything" old methods were really usable (although not too much accessible). In the other hand, the new filter-based approach is enormously powerful sometimes (when you don't know the name/email, or want to make some special searches). So, the key here is if we all want the both systems to exist and how we make them to co-exist? Assuming all we want both systems available... what would be the better way to do so: 1) Simple put both together, one above the other, unrelated? 2) Make the old approach the default one, while putting the new one under the "advanced" switch? 3) Add the old one (initials) under the advanced settings (note it's really supported now "name begins with...) with the old interface? And make the "simple" search to search both under complete name and email? 4) Add some setting to decide what system to use, making them exclusive? I really think that's the key. Both methods have fans. Feel free to comment how to integrate both. Also, some accessibility solutions for the initials should arrive, but that isn't the objective of this bug. Ciao
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          Matthew Davidson added a comment -

          I would think that the largest majority of use would only require the simple search as in 1.8. I love the power of the new filter based system, but I don't think it should supplant the ease and speed of the standard search.

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          Matthew Davidson added a comment - I would think that the largest majority of use would only require the simple search as in 1.8. I love the power of the new filter based system, but I don't think it should supplant the ease and speed of the standard search.
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          Mike Grew added a comment -

          I am not liking the removal of the alphabet links. It could easily be replaced, in addition to the new features which are great too. There's little point having page numbers there - they are mostly useless for large sites. I've placed a BIG vote to bring back the alphabet links. I agree that their removal was a big step backwards.

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          Mike Grew added a comment - I am not liking the removal of the alphabet links. It could easily be replaced, in addition to the new features which are great too. There's little point having page numbers there - they are mostly useless for large sites. I've placed a BIG vote to bring back the alphabet links. I agree that their removal was a big step backwards.
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          Anthony Borrow added a comment -

          I'm linking this issue to a couple of other related issues about improving the filter mechanism. Peace - Anthony

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          Anthony Borrow added a comment - I'm linking this issue to a couple of other related issues about improving the filter mechanism. Peace - Anthony
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          Anthony Borrow added a comment -

          Adding this as a usability issue as well. Peace - Anthony

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          Anthony Borrow added a comment - Adding this as a usability issue as well. Peace - Anthony
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          Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment -

          This issue was assigned to me automatically, however I will not be able to work on this issue in the immediate future. In order to create a truer sense of the state of this issue and to allow other developers to have chance to become involved, I am removing myself as the assignee of this issue.

          For more information, see http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Changes_to_issue_assignment

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          Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment - This issue was assigned to me automatically, however I will not be able to work on this issue in the immediate future. In order to create a truer sense of the state of this issue and to allow other developers to have chance to become involved, I am removing myself as the assignee of this issue. For more information, see http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Changes_to_issue_assignment

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