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  1. Moodle
  2. MDL-18881

Have a default letter scale that maps to the letters defined in the gradebook.

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          • Type: Improvement
          • Status: Closed
          • Priority: Minor
          • Resolution: Duplicate
          • Affects Version/s: 1.9, 1.9.1, 1.9.2, 1.9.3, 1.9.4, 2.7
          • Fix Version/s: BACKEND
          • Component/s: Gradebook
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          • Affected Branches:
            MOODLE_19_STABLE, MOODLE_27_STABLE

            Description

            Discussion about this/related to this at http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=120541.

            Could we have a 'scale' in Moodle that isn't really a defined scale, but rather one that maps to the letters and percentage ranges that are defined in the letter settings in the gradebook? In other words, if letters are enabled and defined, either site-wide or on the course, teachers would have an option of 'Scale: Grade Letter' in the Grade dropdown of any graded activity. This wouldn't be defined in mdl_scale, but rather from mdl_grade_letters. Moodle would simply know that this particular scale gets its values from the grade letter values, and would allow teachers to select the letter as the grade for an activity, rather than using a number that Moodle would then display as a letter.

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                  has a non-specific relationship to

                  Improvement - An enhancement to an existing Moodle feature. MDL-17258 Use "Letter" grades in gradebook, assigns desired numeric grades for you

                  • Major - Major loss of function, incorrect output
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                  has been marked as being related by

                  Improvement - An enhancement to an existing Moodle feature. MDL-21631 Add more preinstalled scales

                  • Minor - Minor loss of function where workaround is possible
                  • Open

                  Improvement - An enhancement to an existing Moodle feature. MDL-46180 Scales and letter grade changes coming out of the Gradebook Workshop

                  • Minor - Minor loss of function where workaround is possible
                  • Open
                  is duplicated by

                  Improvement - An enhancement to an existing Moodle feature. MDL-17258 Use "Letter" grades in gradebook, assigns desired numeric grades for you

                  • Major - Major loss of function, incorrect output
                  • Open

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                    nashev Nenashev Ilya added a comment -

                    How about to generate just one another scale by submiting changes into the letters?

                    And use it by default...

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                    nashev Nenashev Ilya added a comment - How about to generate just one another scale by submiting changes into the letters? And use it by default...
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                    nashev Nenashev Ilya added a comment -

                    Oh, scales havn't manual percentage for they items, but letters have it

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                    nashev Nenashev Ilya added a comment - Oh, scales havn't manual percentage for they items, but letters have it
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                    bobpuffer Bob Puffer added a comment -

                    See patch available on MDL-17484. And discussion at http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=140907.

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                    bobpuffer Bob Puffer added a comment - See patch available on MDL-17484 . And discussion at http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=140907 .
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                    leblangi Gilles-Philippe Leblanc added a comment - - edited

                    Having extensively studied the question, it is virtually impossible to automatically derive a value to a letter based on the existing letters intervals.
                    By cons, if Moodle had initially a valid scale using letters, we could deduce and generate an interval values converting to letters based on this letter scale.

                    As this is not the case, I think the solution would be possible to associate a custom value to a specific element of a scale. View tasks:
                    https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-44673
                    https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-18881

                    I also think this is what is planned:
                    http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Scales#Proposed_Database_Structure

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                    leblangi Gilles-Philippe Leblanc added a comment - - edited Having extensively studied the question, it is virtually impossible to automatically derive a value to a letter based on the existing letters intervals. By cons, if Moodle had initially a valid scale using letters, we could deduce and generate an interval values converting to letters based on this letter scale. As this is not the case, I think the solution would be possible to associate a custom value to a specific element of a scale. View tasks: https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-44673 https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-18881 I also think this is what is planned: http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Scales#Proposed_Database_Structure
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                    rrusso Robert Russo added a comment -

                    Please check out LSU's better letter grades.

                    Here is the patch against 2.7.

                    https://github.com/lsuits/gradebook_patches/blob/master/better_letters.patch

                    This solves the letter grade issue and provides a basic framework for a reimagining of scales as discussed in the gradebook working group.

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                    rrusso Robert Russo added a comment - Please check out LSU's better letter grades. Here is the patch against 2.7. https://github.com/lsuits/gradebook_patches/blob/master/better_letters.patch This solves the letter grade issue and provides a basic framework for a reimagining of scales as discussed in the gradebook working group.
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                    dougiamas Martin Dougiamas added a comment -

                    This will be fixed soon in the duplicate issue MDL-17258

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                    dougiamas Martin Dougiamas added a comment - This will be fixed soon in the duplicate issue MDL-17258

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