Moodle
  1. Moodle
  2. MDL-19670

Allow "Create new discussion for each group" to enable teachers to post the same question for each group with only one posting

    Details

    • Type: Improvement Improvement
    • Status: Open
    • Priority: Minor Minor
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • Affects Version/s: 1.9.5, 2.6
    • Fix Version/s: None
    • Component/s: Forum, Groups
    • Labels:
      None
    • Affected Branches:
      MOODLE_19_STABLE, MOODLE_26_STABLE
    • Rank:
      5395

      Description

      When using the forums in group mode new posts currently have to be started individually for each group in order to maintain group participation rather than the whole-class involvement. The option for new discussion threads to be started that will automatically post that new discussion for each group would decrease some confusion. (The post/discussion would multiply itself so it is created for each group)

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          Matthew Davidson added a comment -

          There needs to be a mechanism to duplicate a topic for each group when separate groups mode is on and the topic is created for "All participants". Currently it just says "You do not have permission to add a new discussion topic for all participants". This is not correct. Teachers DO have permission to create a topic for all participants....Moodle just doesn't want to do it for them. This should be fixed.

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          Matthew Davidson added a comment - There needs to be a mechanism to duplicate a topic for each group when separate groups mode is on and the topic is created for "All participants". Currently it just says "You do not have permission to add a new discussion topic for all participants". This is not correct. Teachers DO have permission to create a topic for all participants....Moodle just doesn't want to do it for them. This should be fixed.
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          Brandy Weaver added a comment -

          This would be very helpful, and the proposed solution seems simplest. However, I'd suggest for consideration an alternate implementation:

          As proposed, the fix would provide the option to automate the duplication of a post for multiple groups. However, in this implementation, the teacher would then show multiple copies of each discussion on his/her screen. In the case of only a few groups and only a few discussions within a forum (in this example, Q&A), this wouldn't be unmanageable. But in a case such as discussed here (https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=172853#p850072) (30 separate groups!) and/or with multiple discussions within a forum, the screen for the teacher could quickly become very unwieldy.

          I'd love to see a sort of "all groups" option that created a single discussion, but tagged each contribution (after the instructor's open) by group. A student then viewing that single discussion would see only discussions tagged with his/her own group tags. Ideally the instructor would have a single discussion link with a drop-down box (or radio controls, or list with checkboxes?) to "filter" the content of the discussion by group, essentially simulating the view of a student within that group).

          Just a thought. Our staff is definitely looking forward to any implementation of this feature.

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          Brandy Weaver added a comment - This would be very helpful, and the proposed solution seems simplest. However, I'd suggest for consideration an alternate implementation: As proposed, the fix would provide the option to automate the duplication of a post for multiple groups. However, in this implementation, the teacher would then show multiple copies of each discussion on his/her screen. In the case of only a few groups and only a few discussions within a forum (in this example, Q&A), this wouldn't be unmanageable. But in a case such as discussed here ( https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=172853#p850072 ) (30 separate groups!) and/or with multiple discussions within a forum, the screen for the teacher could quickly become very unwieldy. I'd love to see a sort of "all groups" option that created a single discussion, but tagged each contribution (after the instructor's open) by group. A student then viewing that single discussion would see only discussions tagged with his/her own group tags. Ideally the instructor would have a single discussion link with a drop-down box (or radio controls, or list with checkboxes?) to "filter" the content of the discussion by group, essentially simulating the view of a student within that group). Just a thought. Our staff is definitely looking forward to any implementation of this feature.
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          Matthew Davidson added a comment -

          I actually implemented this concept a long time ago, but it wasn't used. https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-14270

          They didn't seem very interested in it.

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          Matthew Davidson added a comment - I actually implemented this concept a long time ago, but it wasn't used. https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-14270 They didn't seem very interested in it.
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          Derek Chirnside added a comment -

          I'm wondering if we can get some traction on this as an issue. If to be able to use this for MOOC's alone it is worthwhile.

          Set up random groups of five, then set a question (the same question) to kick off a discussion . . . you need ot be able to have a post in each group. Not practical if there are a lot of groups. And as matthew says, there is code here: MDL-14270

          -Derek

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          Derek Chirnside added a comment - I'm wondering if we can get some traction on this as an issue. If to be able to use this for MOOC's alone it is worthwhile. Set up random groups of five, then set a question (the same question) to kick off a discussion . . . you need ot be able to have a post in each group. Not practical if there are a lot of groups. And as matthew says, there is code here: MDL-14270 -Derek

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