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  1. Moodle
  2. MDL-22077

Forum: Implement a "Private Reply" option

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    • Type: New Feature
    • Status: Open
    • Priority: Minor
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • Affects Version/s: 1.9.8, 2.0.1, 2.6, 2.7
    • Fix Version/s: FRONTEND
    • Component/s: Forum, Messages
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    • Environment:
      All
    • Difficulty:
      Easy
    • Affected Branches:
      MOODLE_19_STABLE, MOODLE_20_STABLE, MOODLE_26_STABLE, MOODLE_27_STABLE

      Description

      Implement a way that will open the messages tool as a "private reply" to a forum post.

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            tsala Helen Foster added a comment -

            Please see the linked issue for further comments.

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            tsala Helen Foster added a comment - Please see the linked issue for further comments.
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            wmpelz Bill Pelz added a comment -

            For my college, this is not a minor priority. Early, private feedback to students in discussion forums is an important pedagogical feature.

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            wmpelz Bill Pelz added a comment - For my college, this is not a minor priority. Early, private feedback to students in discussion forums is an important pedagogical feature.
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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment -

            I agree with Bill, and the private aspect has become important as we try to comply with FERPA regulations with regard to the display of anything that could be considered student assessment information.

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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment - I agree with Bill, and the private aspect has become important as we try to comply with FERPA regulations with regard to the display of anything that could be considered student assessment information.
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            dianajeater Diana Jeater added a comment -

            It's almost impossible to do the work that I do without this option.
            In an ideal world, I'd want it to be available for students to reply privately to other posts, as well as tutors, for courses that involve sharing responses to art work and creative writing.

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            dianajeater Diana Jeater added a comment - It's almost impossible to do the work that I do without this option. In an ideal world, I'd want it to be available for students to reply privately to other posts, as well as tutors, for courses that involve sharing responses to art work and creative writing.
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            bltmacomb Barbara Taylor added a comment -

            Faculty are always asking for this. Can it get implemented for 2.6/2.7?

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            bltmacomb Barbara Taylor added a comment - Faculty are always asking for this. Can it get implemented for 2.6/2.7?
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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment -

            I'm disappointed to see that this isn't in either 2.6 or 2.7. How many votes does it take to get it on the list? Maybe I'll start a campaign

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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment - I'm disappointed to see that this isn't in either 2.6 or 2.7. How many votes does it take to get it on the list? Maybe I'll start a campaign
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            skaceli Hubert Simms added a comment -

            This feature would greatly enhance discussions in an online course. Our faculty are inquiring about this too. Voted on this issue.

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            skaceli Hubert Simms added a comment - This feature would greatly enhance discussions in an online course. Our faculty are inquiring about this too. Voted on this issue.
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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment -

            @Barbera, Lisa and Hubert.
            This is a complex issue. The latest news is this post from Andrew: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=262562#p1138117
            Good luck with your campaign Lisa.

            In particular, I agree with Hubert. For something like Moodle to claim to be constructivist but to have such a poor forum is a bit sad. <off soapbox and hobbyhorse now> I think with two of the biggest Moodle Partners (Moodlerooms and Catalyst/Totara) and the OU having developed their own forums, there is a little less pressure to bring Moodle into the new decade. The problem from HQ's POV is outlined in Andrew's post. Too much under the hood attention is needed for their confidence in long term maintainability and stability. And we all have our opinions on what features are "most needed". I'd like to see Martin support full time work on this by Andrew, where we can push snacks under his door, and he is allowed out once a day to sleep and is insulated from any meetings, official visits, time wasters and crises.

            -Derek

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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment - @Barbera, Lisa and Hubert. This is a complex issue. The latest news is this post from Andrew: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=262562#p1138117 Good luck with your campaign Lisa. In particular, I agree with Hubert. For something like Moodle to claim to be constructivist but to have such a poor forum is a bit sad. <off soapbox and hobbyhorse now> I think with two of the biggest Moodle Partners (Moodlerooms and Catalyst/Totara) and the OU having developed their own forums, there is a little less pressure to bring Moodle into the new decade. The problem from HQ's POV is outlined in Andrew's post. Too much under the hood attention is needed for their confidence in long term maintainability and stability. And we all have our opinions on what features are "most needed". I'd like to see Martin support full time work on this by Andrew, where we can push snacks under his door, and he is allowed out once a day to sleep and is insulated from any meetings, official visits, time wasters and crises. -Derek
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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment -

            Probably this should be retired or added to the ATTO epic tracker item.

            -Derek

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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment - Probably this should be retired or added to the ATTO epic tracker item. -Derek
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            dobedobedoh Andrew Nicols added a comment -

            I'm sorry Derek,

            I'm not quite sure how this fits into Atto... Could you perhaps elaborate?

            Andrew

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            dobedobedoh Andrew Nicols added a comment - I'm sorry Derek, I'm not quite sure how this fits into Atto... Could you perhaps elaborate? Andrew
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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment - - edited

            Hi Derek, Andrew, et. al.

            I see that the "private replies" enhancement is included in MDL-39707, and that this issue is marked as unresolved. However, Andrew (in the post linked to above) mentions that some changes may be included in 2.8. I'm afraid I'm having trouble sorting out all the various forum issues and figuring out which ones are being looked at and which ones are being dismissed as "not quite right for Moodle."

            Since I'm often asked about an efficient way to give private feedback to students regarding forum posts, I'd appreciate being able to tell people whether a solution is in the works, or probably not ever going to happen.

            Thanks,
            Lisa

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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment - - edited Hi Derek, Andrew, et. al. I see that the "private replies" enhancement is included in MDL-39707 , and that this issue is marked as unresolved. However, Andrew (in the post linked to above) mentions that some changes may be included in 2.8. I'm afraid I'm having trouble sorting out all the various forum issues and figuring out which ones are being looked at and which ones are being dismissed as "not quite right for Moodle." Since I'm often asked about an efficient way to give private feedback to students regarding forum posts, I'd appreciate being able to tell people whether a solution is in the works, or probably not ever going to happen. Thanks, Lisa
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            dobedobedoh Andrew Nicols added a comment -

            Hi Lisa,

            I have indeed been working on a variety of issues for Moodle 2.8 relating to forums. So far we have:

            1. Per-discussion subscriptions,
            2. Next/Previous thread links

            I'm currently working on the ability to reply to forum posts by e-mail.

            I'm unsure whether private reply will reach Moodle 2.8 at this stage, but I suspect that it may not at this stage. The point at which all new features must be ready for demonstration is fast approaching and I don't know whether we'll be able to complete it before then.

            I'm sorry I can't give you more definite news at this stage,

            Andrew

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            dobedobedoh Andrew Nicols added a comment - Hi Lisa, I have indeed been working on a variety of issues for Moodle 2.8 relating to forums. So far we have: Per-discussion subscriptions, Next/Previous thread links I'm currently working on the ability to reply to forum posts by e-mail. I'm unsure whether private reply will reach Moodle 2.8 at this stage, but I suspect that it may not at this stage. The point at which all new features must be ready for demonstration is fast approaching and I don't know whether we'll be able to complete it before then. I'm sorry I can't give you more definite news at this stage, Andrew
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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment -

            Thank you, Andrew. I very much appreciate all the work you're doing. I'm sure the enhancements you're making in 2.8 will be great.

            I'm glad to hear that the private reply feature is still being looked at. Perhaps the "reply by email" capability will at least give our instructors a way to respond privately in order to avoid running into FERPA problems.

            Good luck with your deadlines,

            Lisa

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            beachtch Lisa Beach added a comment - Thank you, Andrew. I very much appreciate all the work you're doing. I'm sure the enhancements you're making in 2.8 will be great. I'm glad to hear that the private reply feature is still being looked at. Perhaps the "reply by email" capability will at least give our instructors a way to respond privately in order to avoid running into FERPA problems. Good luck with your deadlines, Lisa
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            nilmadhab nilmadhab mondal added a comment -

            It will be a great option.

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            nilmadhab nilmadhab mondal added a comment - It will be a great option.

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