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  1. Moodle
  2. MDL-24951

Groups mode in a forum without defined groups in a course gives a misleading error message

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    • Bug
    • Status: Closed
    • Minor
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • 1.9.9, 1.9.10, 2.0, 2.7, 3.1.2, 3.5.3, 3.6.1, 3.7
    • 3.5.4, 3.6.2
    • Course, Forum
    • Any
    • MOODLE_19_STABLE, MOODLE_20_STABLE, MOODLE_27_STABLE, MOODLE_31_STABLE, MOODLE_35_STABLE, MOODLE_36_STABLE, MOODLE_37_STABLE
    • MOODLE_35_STABLE, MOODLE_36_STABLE
    • MDL-24951-master
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      1. Create a course
      2. Enrol a user as student and a user as a non-editing teacher into the course
      3. Create a group in 'course' called 'group 1'
      4. Ensure no user is a member of 'group 1'
      5. Create a forum activity in the course configured with group mode in "Seperate group mode"
      6. Login as 'teacher'
      7. Try to post in the forum
        1. Confirm that the teacher sees the following warning:
          You do not have permission to add a new discussion topic for all participants.
      8. Login as 'student'
      9. Try to post in the forum
        1. Confirm that the student sees the following warning:
          You do not have permission to add a new discussion topic. You are not a member of any groups.
      10. Login as admin
      11. add both 'teacher' & 'student' to 'group 1'
      12. Login as 'teacher'
      13. Try to post in the forum
        1. Confirm that the teacher is able to add a new discussion
      14. Login as 'student'
      15. Try to post in the forum
        1. Confirm that the student is able to add a new discussion
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      Create a course Enrol a user as student and a user as a non-editing teacher into the course Create a group in 'course' called 'group 1' Ensure no user is a member of 'group 1' Create a forum activity in the course configured with group mode in "Seperate group mode" Login as 'teacher' Try to post in the forum Confirm that the teacher sees the following warning: You do not have permission to add a new discussion topic for all participants. Login as 'student' Try to post in the forum Confirm that the student sees the following warning: You do not have permission to add a new discussion topic. You are not a member of any groups. Login as admin add both 'teacher' & 'student' to 'group 1' Login as 'teacher' Try to post in the forum Confirm that the teacher is able to add a new discussion Login as 'student' Try to post in the forum Confirm that the student is able to add a new discussion

    Description

      Creating a forum with a groups mode enabled without any groups defined in the course causes a non-obvious failure. For example, if you create a forum with separate groups in a course without any defined groups, any student who visits the forum receives this message: "You do not have permission to add a new discussion topic for all participants." Contrast this behavior with a wiki, which gracefully allows a wiki for "All Participants," even though we're in groups mode.

      One way to fix this is to prohibit creating an activity when there no defined groups. I've attached patches for 1.9.9 and 2.0 RC1 which accomplish this. Another way might be a new default behavior for a forum (similar to the wiki) or at least a more apparent error message.

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        Issue Links

          will be (partly) resolved by

          Improvement - An enhancement to an existing Moodle feature. MDL-19670 Allow "Create new discussion for each group" to enable teachers to post the same question for each group with only one posting

          • Minor - Minor loss of function where workaround is possible
          • Closed

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              mathewmay Mathew May
              cfulton Charles Fulton
              Simey Lameze Simey Lameze
              Andrew Lyons Andrew Lyons
              Anna Carissa Sadia Anna Carissa Sadia
              Amaia Anabitarte, Carlos Escobedo, Laurent David, Mikel Martín Corrales, Sabina Abellan, Sara Arjona (@sarjona), Adrian Greeve, Ilya Tregubov, Kevin Percy, Mathew May, Mihail Geshoski, Shamim Rezaie
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                Resolved:
                14/Jan/19

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