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  1. Moodle
  2. MDL-31581

Quiz: Enhance Manual Grading Interface

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    • Type: Improvement
    • Status: Open
    • Priority: Minor
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • Affects Version/s: 2.2.1, 2.7.2, 2.8
    • Fix Version/s: STABLE backlog
    • Component/s: Quiz
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      1. Create a quiz with a manually graded question and enable more than one attempt
      2. Use three student accounts
      3. All three students attempt quiz once
      4. Teacher account grades all attempts
      5. Student A and C retake the quiz
      6. Teacher views second attempts through manual grading window

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      1. Create a quiz with a manually graded question and enable more than one attempt 2. Use three student accounts 3. All three students attempt quiz once 4. Teacher account grades all attempts 5. Student A and C retake the quiz 6. Teacher views second attempts through manual grading window
    • Affected Branches:
      MOODLE_22_STABLE, MOODLE_27_STABLE, MOODLE_28_STABLE
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      Description

      I have had a request to be able to view manual graded questions as such:
      Ungraded attempt 2 by student A
      Graded attempt 1 by student A

      Ungraded attempt 3 by student C
      Graded attempt 2 by student C
      Graded attempt 1 by student C

      And so on. 1.9+ had a similar view but you had to click on each student's name.

      Currently, the view is either:
      ALL ungraded attempts, or
      ALL graded attempts, or
      ALL attempts

        Gliffy Diagrams

        1. 1.9-includesungradedbystudent.pdf
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          Becky Keene
        2. 2.2-allattempts.pdf
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          Becky Keene
        1. Free response short answer.jpg
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        2. manual grading screen grab.png
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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment -

            I can't work out what you mean. Please could you attach screen-grabs of what you used to see in Moodle 1.9 that you like, and what you see in 2.x that you don't like. Thanks.

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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment - I can't work out what you mean. Please could you attach screen-grabs of what you used to see in Moodle 1.9 that you like, and what you see in 2.x that you don't like. Thanks.
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            keeneb13793e Becky Keene added a comment -

            I've added a couple of screenshots to attempt to explain, In version 1.9 I could view the student's first attempt and the second attempt to as to see what the student had changed. In version 2.0 I have this same capability except I have to scroll through every single student to do it, including those I have already graded.

            Another explanation:
            1.9 - Click Manual Grading. They are sorted by student name and attempt. Ungraded attempts are clearly marked. I scroll down the page and click on "grade" to view that attempt as well as past attempts by that student for that particular question.

            2.0+ Click Manual Grading. Choose To Grade, Already Graded, or Total. If I choose To Grade, I don't see the student's previous attempt and I cannot compare their work for changes. If I choose Total, I have to scroll through every student's attempt, even if there is nothing to do, and the attempts that need grading are not clearly marked. But I can see a student's first and second attempts, which is what I need.

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            keeneb13793e Becky Keene added a comment - I've added a couple of screenshots to attempt to explain, In version 1.9 I could view the student's first attempt and the second attempt to as to see what the student had changed. In version 2.0 I have this same capability except I have to scroll through every single student to do it, including those I have already graded. Another explanation: 1.9 - Click Manual Grading. They are sorted by student name and attempt. Ungraded attempts are clearly marked. I scroll down the page and click on "grade" to view that attempt as well as past attempts by that student for that particular question. 2.0+ Click Manual Grading. Choose To Grade, Already Graded, or Total. If I choose To Grade, I don't see the student's previous attempt and I cannot compare their work for changes. If I choose Total, I have to scroll through every student's attempt, even if there is nothing to do, and the attempts that need grading are not clearly marked. But I can see a student's first and second attempts, which is what I need.
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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment -

            Try choosing 'Total' instead on 'To grade'. That should include both graded and ungraded attempts. (You might also want to increase from 5 questions per page).

            (Perhaps we need to think of a better word that 'Total' here.)

            I guess when sorting by student name, or similar, we need to use attempt number as a secondary sort, to make sure they come out in a sensible order.

            Also, it would make sense to make more of a visual distinction between those attempts that require grading, and those that don't, when displaying both.

            So, there are some small tweaks to make, but I think it will basically do what you want.

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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment - Try choosing 'Total' instead on 'To grade'. That should include both graded and ungraded attempts. (You might also want to increase from 5 questions per page). (Perhaps we need to think of a better word that 'Total' here.) I guess when sorting by student name, or similar, we need to use attempt number as a secondary sort, to make sure they come out in a sensible order. Also, it would make sense to make more of a visual distinction between those attempts that require grading, and those that don't, when displaying both. So, there are some small tweaks to make, but I think it will basically do what you want.
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            keeneb13793e Becky Keene added a comment -

            Yes, I know I can use 'total' to see everyone. I only want to view all attempts for students with ungraded attempts, however. I like your idea of a secondary filter. I would like to sort by attempt number and then by student, I think, for this purpose. A visual distinction would be helpful as well. Thank you.

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            keeneb13793e Becky Keene added a comment - Yes, I know I can use 'total' to see everyone. I only want to view all attempts for students with ungraded attempts, however. I like your idea of a secondary filter. I would like to sort by attempt number and then by student, I think, for this purpose. A visual distinction would be helpful as well. Thank you.
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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment -

            I finally got around to trying to implement what I suggested. See the attached screen-grab. The changes are:

            1. When order by student name or idnumber, order by attempt number when one student has several attempts.

            2. When showing a mixture of graded and ungraded attempts, hilight the ones that still need grading. That is the big green bar in the screen grab. I am not terribly happy with how that looks. Better ideas welcome.

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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment - I finally got around to trying to implement what I suggested. See the attached screen-grab. The changes are: 1. When order by student name or idnumber, order by attempt number when one student has several attempts. 2. When showing a mixture of graded and ungraded attempts, hilight the ones that still need grading. That is the big green bar in the screen grab. I am not terribly happy with how that looks. Better ideas welcome.
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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment -

            Here (https://github.com/timhunt/moodle/compare/master...MDL-31581) are the changes I was experimenting with.

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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment - Here ( https://github.com/timhunt/moodle/compare/master...MDL-31581 ) are the changes I was experimenting with.
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Seems OK to me.

            The one thing which caught my eye was that it looks like orderby variable if set to idnumber isn't tied to a table alias. Which means it perhaps could conflict between grade idnumber and user idnumber? But that seems existing, so probably not an issue.

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Seems OK to me. The one thing which caught my eye was that it looks like orderby variable if set to idnumber isn't tied to a table alias. Which means it perhaps could conflict between grade idnumber and user idnumber? But that seems existing, so probably not an issue.
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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment -

            Thanks Dan. At this stage, I was not so much after peer review, but more a concept / UI review. Is this proposal a good idea? If so, does the way I have implemented it make sense to users?

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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment - Thanks Dan. At this stage, I was not so much after peer review, but more a concept / UI review. Is this proposal a good idea? If so, does the way I have implemented it make sense to users?
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            From my point of view I think it makes sense. But I don't use the quiz, really.

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - From my point of view I think it makes sense. But I don't use the quiz, really.
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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment -

            I recently opened up MDL-39229 which is a duplicate, and Tim asked me to copy over anything important from there.

            I marked a whole bunch of essay questions on Friday. There were quite short answers, and I wondered about ways to streamline the process. I'd like to see an option for a simpler view when grading essay questions, to enable speedier marking. Something like this:

            1) only one statement of the question
            2) comment box hidden - maybe a click away
            3) a drop down box for a grade

            I originally posted here: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=211536#p935052 Tim suggested tweaking the CSS which can remove the comments box.

            -Derek

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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment - I recently opened up MDL-39229 which is a duplicate, and Tim asked me to copy over anything important from there. I marked a whole bunch of essay questions on Friday. There were quite short answers, and I wondered about ways to streamline the process. I'd like to see an option for a simpler view when grading essay questions, to enable speedier marking. Something like this: 1) only one statement of the question 2) comment box hidden - maybe a click away 3) a drop down box for a grade I originally posted here: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=211536#p935052 Tim suggested tweaking the CSS which can remove the comments box. -Derek
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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment -

            This issue was assigned to me automatically, however I will not be able to work on this issue in the immediate future. In order to create a truer sense of the state of this issue and to allow other developers to have chance to become involved, I am removing myself as the assignee of this issue.

            For more information, see http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Changes_to_issue_assignment

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            timhunt Tim Hunt added a comment - This issue was assigned to me automatically, however I will not be able to work on this issue in the immediate future. In order to create a truer sense of the state of this issue and to allow other developers to have chance to become involved, I am removing myself as the assignee of this issue. For more information, see http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Changes_to_issue_assignment
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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment -

            I've added a picture here to clarify my question. A grading screen to show a compact view of short free response questions, manually marked off a very easy to use drop down.

            If you do this as at present and use the essay question there is a lot of clutter on the screen. It could be made much more nice looking.

            [I know the inevitable feature creep - a mini feedback space as well]

            -Derek

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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment - I've added a picture here to clarify my question. A grading screen to show a compact view of short free response questions, manually marked off a very easy to use drop down. If you do this as at present and use the essay question there is a lot of clutter on the screen. It could be made much more nice looking. [I know the inevitable feature creep - a mini feedback space as well] -Derek
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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment -

            I think Becky has moved on from Moodle.org. I am going to pay some attention to this request.
            I guess the first thing I am curious is if anyone has ever checked out Tim Hunt's suggestion in Git?

            -Derek

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            derekcx Derek Chirnside added a comment - I think Becky has moved on from Moodle.org. I am going to pay some attention to this request. I guess the first thing I am curious is if anyone has ever checked out Tim Hunt's suggestion in Git? -Derek
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            keeneb13793e Becky Keene added a comment - - edited

            HI Derek, I haven't. But I'm not a developer and was just suggesting something that my teachers really missed. They used to be able to compare one student's previous attempts at essay questions in quizzes (v 1.9). Now each student's essay question attempts are scattered throughout, which makes it hard to see growth from one attempt to the next. That's what we were asking about. And no, I didn't try Tim's suggestion. I have to have something released into core before I can request to have it installed, per my vendor.

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            keeneb13793e Becky Keene added a comment - - edited HI Derek, I haven't. But I'm not a developer and was just suggesting something that my teachers really missed. They used to be able to compare one student's previous attempts at essay questions in quizzes (v 1.9). Now each student's essay question attempts are scattered throughout, which makes it hard to see growth from one attempt to the next. That's what we were asking about. And no, I didn't try Tim's suggestion. I have to have something released into core before I can request to have it installed, per my vendor.

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