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    • Type: Improvement Improvement
    • Status: Open
    • Priority: Minor Minor
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • Affects Version/s: 2.2.1
    • Fix Version/s: STABLE backlog
    • Component/s: Quiz
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      1. Create a quiz with a manually graded question and enable more than one attempt
      2. Use three student accounts
      3. All three students attempt quiz once
      4. Teacher account grades all attempts
      5. Student A and C retake the quiz
      6. Teacher views second attempts through manual grading window

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      1. Create a quiz with a manually graded question and enable more than one attempt 2. Use three student accounts 3. All three students attempt quiz once 4. Teacher account grades all attempts 5. Student A and C retake the quiz 6. Teacher views second attempts through manual grading window
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      Description

      I have had a request to be able to view manual graded questions as such:
      Ungraded attempt 2 by student A
      Graded attempt 1 by student A

      Ungraded attempt 3 by student C
      Graded attempt 2 by student C
      Graded attempt 1 by student C

      And so on. 1.9+ had a similar view but you had to click on each student's name.

      Currently, the view is either:
      ALL ungraded attempts, or
      ALL graded attempts, or
      ALL attempts

      1. 1.9-includesungradedbystudent.pdf
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        Becky Keene
      2. 2.2-allattempts.pdf
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        Becky Keene
      1. Free response short answer.jpg
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      2. manual grading screen grab.png
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          Tim Hunt added a comment -

          I can't work out what you mean. Please could you attach screen-grabs of what you used to see in Moodle 1.9 that you like, and what you see in 2.x that you don't like. Thanks.

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          Tim Hunt added a comment - I can't work out what you mean. Please could you attach screen-grabs of what you used to see in Moodle 1.9 that you like, and what you see in 2.x that you don't like. Thanks.
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          Becky Keene added a comment -

          I've added a couple of screenshots to attempt to explain, In version 1.9 I could view the student's first attempt and the second attempt to as to see what the student had changed. In version 2.0 I have this same capability except I have to scroll through every single student to do it, including those I have already graded.

          Another explanation:
          1.9 - Click Manual Grading. They are sorted by student name and attempt. Ungraded attempts are clearly marked. I scroll down the page and click on "grade" to view that attempt as well as past attempts by that student for that particular question.

          2.0+ Click Manual Grading. Choose To Grade, Already Graded, or Total. If I choose To Grade, I don't see the student's previous attempt and I cannot compare their work for changes. If I choose Total, I have to scroll through every student's attempt, even if there is nothing to do, and the attempts that need grading are not clearly marked. But I can see a student's first and second attempts, which is what I need.

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          Becky Keene added a comment - I've added a couple of screenshots to attempt to explain, In version 1.9 I could view the student's first attempt and the second attempt to as to see what the student had changed. In version 2.0 I have this same capability except I have to scroll through every single student to do it, including those I have already graded. Another explanation: 1.9 - Click Manual Grading. They are sorted by student name and attempt. Ungraded attempts are clearly marked. I scroll down the page and click on "grade" to view that attempt as well as past attempts by that student for that particular question. 2.0+ Click Manual Grading. Choose To Grade, Already Graded, or Total. If I choose To Grade, I don't see the student's previous attempt and I cannot compare their work for changes. If I choose Total, I have to scroll through every student's attempt, even if there is nothing to do, and the attempts that need grading are not clearly marked. But I can see a student's first and second attempts, which is what I need.
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          Tim Hunt added a comment -

          Try choosing 'Total' instead on 'To grade'. That should include both graded and ungraded attempts. (You might also want to increase from 5 questions per page).

          (Perhaps we need to think of a better word that 'Total' here.)

          I guess when sorting by student name, or similar, we need to use attempt number as a secondary sort, to make sure they come out in a sensible order.

          Also, it would make sense to make more of a visual distinction between those attempts that require grading, and those that don't, when displaying both.

          So, there are some small tweaks to make, but I think it will basically do what you want.

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          Tim Hunt added a comment - Try choosing 'Total' instead on 'To grade'. That should include both graded and ungraded attempts. (You might also want to increase from 5 questions per page). (Perhaps we need to think of a better word that 'Total' here.) I guess when sorting by student name, or similar, we need to use attempt number as a secondary sort, to make sure they come out in a sensible order. Also, it would make sense to make more of a visual distinction between those attempts that require grading, and those that don't, when displaying both. So, there are some small tweaks to make, but I think it will basically do what you want.
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          Becky Keene added a comment -

          Yes, I know I can use 'total' to see everyone. I only want to view all attempts for students with ungraded attempts, however. I like your idea of a secondary filter. I would like to sort by attempt number and then by student, I think, for this purpose. A visual distinction would be helpful as well. Thank you.

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          Becky Keene added a comment - Yes, I know I can use 'total' to see everyone. I only want to view all attempts for students with ungraded attempts, however. I like your idea of a secondary filter. I would like to sort by attempt number and then by student, I think, for this purpose. A visual distinction would be helpful as well. Thank you.
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          Tim Hunt added a comment -

          I finally got around to trying to implement what I suggested. See the attached screen-grab. The changes are:

          1. When order by student name or idnumber, order by attempt number when one student has several attempts.

          2. When showing a mixture of graded and ungraded attempts, hilight the ones that still need grading. That is the big green bar in the screen grab. I am not terribly happy with how that looks. Better ideas welcome.

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          Tim Hunt added a comment - I finally got around to trying to implement what I suggested. See the attached screen-grab. The changes are: 1. When order by student name or idnumber, order by attempt number when one student has several attempts. 2. When showing a mixture of graded and ungraded attempts, hilight the ones that still need grading. That is the big green bar in the screen grab. I am not terribly happy with how that looks. Better ideas welcome.
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          Tim Hunt added a comment -

          Here (https://github.com/timhunt/moodle/compare/master...MDL-31581) are the changes I was experimenting with.

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          Tim Hunt added a comment - Here ( https://github.com/timhunt/moodle/compare/master...MDL-31581 ) are the changes I was experimenting with.
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          Dan Poltawski added a comment -

          Seems OK to me.

          The one thing which caught my eye was that it looks like orderby variable if set to idnumber isn't tied to a table alias. Which means it perhaps could conflict between grade idnumber and user idnumber? But that seems existing, so probably not an issue.

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          Dan Poltawski added a comment - Seems OK to me. The one thing which caught my eye was that it looks like orderby variable if set to idnumber isn't tied to a table alias. Which means it perhaps could conflict between grade idnumber and user idnumber? But that seems existing, so probably not an issue.
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          Tim Hunt added a comment -

          Thanks Dan. At this stage, I was not so much after peer review, but more a concept / UI review. Is this proposal a good idea? If so, does the way I have implemented it make sense to users?

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          Tim Hunt added a comment - Thanks Dan. At this stage, I was not so much after peer review, but more a concept / UI review. Is this proposal a good idea? If so, does the way I have implemented it make sense to users?
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          Dan Poltawski added a comment -

          From my point of view I think it makes sense. But I don't use the quiz, really.

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          Dan Poltawski added a comment - From my point of view I think it makes sense. But I don't use the quiz, really.
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          Derek Chirnside added a comment -

          I recently opened up MDL-39229 which is a duplicate, and Tim asked me to copy over anything important from there.

          I marked a whole bunch of essay questions on Friday. There were quite short answers, and I wondered about ways to streamline the process. I'd like to see an option for a simpler view when grading essay questions, to enable speedier marking. Something like this:

          1) only one statement of the question
          2) comment box hidden - maybe a click away
          3) a drop down box for a grade

          I originally posted here: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=211536#p935052 Tim suggested tweaking the CSS which can remove the comments box.

          -Derek

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          Derek Chirnside added a comment - I recently opened up MDL-39229 which is a duplicate, and Tim asked me to copy over anything important from there. I marked a whole bunch of essay questions on Friday. There were quite short answers, and I wondered about ways to streamline the process. I'd like to see an option for a simpler view when grading essay questions, to enable speedier marking. Something like this: 1) only one statement of the question 2) comment box hidden - maybe a click away 3) a drop down box for a grade I originally posted here: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=211536#p935052 Tim suggested tweaking the CSS which can remove the comments box. -Derek
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          Tim Hunt added a comment -

          This issue was assigned to me automatically, however I will not be able to work on this issue in the immediate future. In order to create a truer sense of the state of this issue and to allow other developers to have chance to become involved, I am removing myself as the assignee of this issue.

          For more information, see http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Changes_to_issue_assignment

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          Tim Hunt added a comment - This issue was assigned to me automatically, however I will not be able to work on this issue in the immediate future. In order to create a truer sense of the state of this issue and to allow other developers to have chance to become involved, I am removing myself as the assignee of this issue. For more information, see http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Changes_to_issue_assignment
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          Derek Chirnside added a comment -

          I've added a picture here to clarify my question. A grading screen to show a compact view of short free response questions, manually marked off a very easy to use drop down.

          If you do this as at present and use the essay question there is a lot of clutter on the screen. It could be made much more nice looking.

          [I know the inevitable feature creep - a mini feedback space as well]

          -Derek

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          Derek Chirnside added a comment - I've added a picture here to clarify my question. A grading screen to show a compact view of short free response questions, manually marked off a very easy to use drop down. If you do this as at present and use the essay question there is a lot of clutter on the screen. It could be made much more nice looking. [I know the inevitable feature creep - a mini feedback space as well] -Derek

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