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  2. MDL-33693

Allow "Frequently used comments" to be added while marking with Marking guide

    Details

    • Type: Improvement Improvement
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Minor Minor
    • Resolution: Inactive
    • Affects Version/s: 2.3
    • Fix Version/s: DEV backlog
    • Component/s: Grading methods
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      MOODLE_23_STABLE

      Description

      In 2.3 the feature of having standardised comments is excellent, however adding new ones required navigating to an obscure location and away from the task of assessing. It would be more convenient if the teacher building the list of standardised comments could not only select comments from the feedback screen but click a + button to add more. When marking you often think of new comments - but who wants to leave the thought process, screen, etc, and navigate to a totally different screen to add it, then return to the assignment to use it?
      It is highly unlikely that a final list of comments can be created before marking has begun - the list will be added to as marking progresses and this process needs to avoid interrupting the academics/teachers/tutors/peers train of thought.
      Cheers.

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          Michael de Raadt added a comment -

          I assume you are talking about the Marking guide.

          Your idea sounds good to me, although it might not be simple in the grading methods framework.

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          Michael de Raadt added a comment - I assume you are talking about the Marking guide. Your idea sounds good to me, although it might not be simple in the grading methods framework.
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          Dan Marsden added a comment -

          Hi Shane - definitely sounds like a nice improvement - the Marking guide was sponsored by Massey Uni - I'm not likely to work on this improvement unless Massey(or someone else) decides to fund the work to do it but I'd be happy to review a patch if someone else put's one together!

          Adding Eva/Paul to this as well.

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          Dan Marsden added a comment - Hi Shane - definitely sounds like a nice improvement - the Marking guide was sponsored by Massey Uni - I'm not likely to work on this improvement unless Massey(or someone else) decides to fund the work to do it but I'd be happy to review a patch if someone else put's one together! Adding Eva/Paul to this as well.
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          Eva Heinrich added a comment -

          I agree that new frequently-used-comments come up while marking. Until we get around to possibly looking into implementing a feature for instant adding I just tried the following: I opened a second browser window with the marking guide open (using the first window for marking). I could add more frequently-used-comments and save the marking guide; these new comments were available when moving to marking the next student. That seems to work and could be good enough.

          Further, while I see (and have experienced in my own marking) the practical need for being able to add on-the-fly, maybe a bit more on the background ideas. Frequently-used-comments are about efficiency, but also about feedback quality and consistency (especially when using multiple markers). The idea to have writing these comments centralised in the marking guide (accessible only to teachers, not non-editing teachers) is about quality control, about writing thoughtful comments, about writing comments that do not overlap with other comments (as otherwise one ends up with many similar comments that are difficult to distinguish). This points to having to make the effort to specifically go to one 'place' to add comments, after careful deliberation.

          What are your thoughts?
          Regards, Eva

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          Eva Heinrich added a comment - I agree that new frequently-used-comments come up while marking. Until we get around to possibly looking into implementing a feature for instant adding I just tried the following: I opened a second browser window with the marking guide open (using the first window for marking). I could add more frequently-used-comments and save the marking guide; these new comments were available when moving to marking the next student. That seems to work and could be good enough. Further, while I see (and have experienced in my own marking) the practical need for being able to add on-the-fly, maybe a bit more on the background ideas. Frequently-used-comments are about efficiency, but also about feedback quality and consistency (especially when using multiple markers). The idea to have writing these comments centralised in the marking guide (accessible only to teachers, not non-editing teachers) is about quality control, about writing thoughtful comments, about writing comments that do not overlap with other comments (as otherwise one ends up with many similar comments that are difficult to distinguish). This points to having to make the effort to specifically go to one 'place' to add comments, after careful deliberation. What are your thoughts? Regards, Eva
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          Dan Marsden added a comment -

          Hi Eva, if we implemented this we'd probably use a setting/capabilty that helped to control it so that the site admin could choose how it was used. I agree that in the meantime the workaround you mention is a viable option.

          thanks,

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          Dan Marsden added a comment - Hi Eva, if we implemented this we'd probably use a setting/capabilty that helped to control it so that the site admin could choose how it was used. I agree that in the meantime the workaround you mention is a viable option. thanks,
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          Marina Glancy added a comment -

          We have detected that this issue has been inactive for over two years and also did not collect many votes. It is possible that it has been already implemented in a more recent version of Moodle, or it is not highly demanded. There are unlimited number of ways Moodle functinality can be expanded and improved but we would like to concentrate on the features that will benefit majority of users, and which can not be implemented as plugins. If you have a suggestion for improving Moodle core, and there is no open issue for it in the tracker, please start a new forum discussion to see how many other users agree with you, and then create a new issue providing as many details as possible.

          ==BLK2YIMP20141121==

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          Marina Glancy added a comment - We have detected that this issue has been inactive for over two years and also did not collect many votes. It is possible that it has been already implemented in a more recent version of Moodle, or it is not highly demanded. There are unlimited number of ways Moodle functinality can be expanded and improved but we would like to concentrate on the features that will benefit majority of users, and which can not be implemented as plugins. If you have a suggestion for improving Moodle core, and there is no open issue for it in the tracker, please start a new forum discussion to see how many other users agree with you, and then create a new issue providing as many details as possible. ==BLK2YIMP20141121==

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