Moodle
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  2. MDL-34088

Could advanced grading rubric be shown on assignment page before being completed

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    • Testing Instructions:
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      Create an assignment using an advanced grading form.
      Login as a student and view the assignment.
      A preview of the grading form should be visible on the front page of the assignment before (and after) the student has submitted any work.

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      Create an assignment using an advanced grading form. Login as a student and view the assignment. A preview of the grading form should be visible on the front page of the assignment before (and after) the student has submitted any work.
    • Affected Branches:
      MOODLE_22_STABLE, MOODLE_23_STABLE
    • Fixed Branches:
      MOODLE_24_STABLE
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      Description

      It's great that students can now view the advanced grading rubric. At present, students have to click on a link to the rubric from the right hand menu.

      Could the rubric be displayed under the assignment objective before students submit, rather than only after the assignment has been graded?

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            Marina Glancy added a comment -

            Advanced grading API can not put any text inside the module page directly. So particular modules (mod_assignment, mod_assign, etc.) that allow advanced grading can have their own code to insert information about current method used

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            Marina Glancy added a comment - Advanced grading API can not put any text inside the module page directly. So particular modules (mod_assignment, mod_assign, etc.) that allow advanced grading can have their own code to insert information about current method used
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            llywelyn morgan added a comment -

            i understand that. i wouldn't want the rubric to replace the assignment's text, just be included below the text, the same as it currently appears after the assignment has been graded.

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            llywelyn morgan added a comment - i understand that. i wouldn't want the rubric to replace the assignment's text, just be included below the text, the same as it currently appears after the assignment has been graded.
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            Paul Monachino added a comment -

            I agree that ideally the rubric should appear below the assignment text. But if it must be linked from a block, then the Navigation block is an odd solution as I can find no other feature that requires accessing something in Navigation. Teachers access rubrics rather awkwardly from the Settings block, so it seems it should be done in a similar fashion for consistency.

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            Paul Monachino added a comment - I agree that ideally the rubric should appear below the assignment text. But if it must be linked from a block, then the Navigation block is an odd solution as I can find no other feature that requires accessing something in Navigation. Teachers access rubrics rather awkwardly from the Settings block, so it seems it should be done in a similar fashion for consistency.
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            Michael de Raadt added a comment -

            My +1 for adding this with the assignment description in the assignment module.

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            Michael de Raadt added a comment - My +1 for adding this with the assignment description in the assignment module.
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            Damyon Wiese added a comment -

            Splitting this into 2 issues - one for adding the hooks to the grading controller and this one for calling it from the assignment module.

            Cheers, Damyon

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            Damyon Wiese added a comment - Splitting this into 2 issues - one for adding the hooks to the grading controller and this one for calling it from the assignment module. Cheers, Damyon
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            Amy Call added a comment -

            This is a definite issue with our clients. An enhancement would be nice to allow the student to preview the Rubric on the actual assignment page, as soon as they click on the assignment link. Navigating to the 'submissions grading' in the navigation block does not seem to be intuitive.

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            Amy Call added a comment - This is a definite issue with our clients. An enhancement would be nice to allow the student to preview the Rubric on the actual assignment page, as soon as they click on the assignment link. Navigating to the 'submissions grading' in the navigation block does not seem to be intuitive.
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            Mark Glynn added a comment -

            On my moodle set up I don't have the follow tick box options
            Allow users to preview rubric.....
            Display rubric description during evaluation
            display rubric description to those being graded

            How do I activate these options for my teachers. FYI I'm admin on the site

            Thanks in advance of any help that you can provide

            kind regards

            Mark

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            Mark Glynn added a comment - On my moodle set up I don't have the follow tick box options Allow users to preview rubric..... Display rubric description during evaluation display rubric description to those being graded How do I activate these options for my teachers. FYI I'm admin on the site Thanks in advance of any help that you can provide kind regards Mark
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            Eric Strom added a comment -

            This looks a lot like what was described in this item:
            http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-32222

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            Eric Strom added a comment - This looks a lot like what was described in this item: http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-32222
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            Gloria Doherty added a comment -

            Our faculty are losing interest in using rubrics because it is time intensive to guide students through the process of finding "Submissions grading". Navigation varies between docked and not docked. Too many clicks to reveal the rubric.

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            Gloria Doherty added a comment - Our faculty are losing interest in using rubrics because it is time intensive to guide students through the process of finding "Submissions grading". Navigation varies between docked and not docked. Too many clicks to reveal the rubric.
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            Stephen Overall added a comment -

            As a workaround, I have been manually creating in the Assignment description field a hyperlink to the rubric preview by copying the rubric preview URL (for example, http://www.somesite.edu/yourmoodle/grade/grading/form/rubric/preview.php?areaid=33) from the link now appearing on the Navigation block. So then the learner can click and the link opens in another browser tab. This procedure is time-consuming for me, but it is clear to the student.

            However, now I've decided for this Fall semester to turn off the Navigation block entirely (too much confusing firepower for my students even with all Nav block settings at their minimums) replacing the Nav block with the much simpler Courses and Course Contents blocks.

            So now to find the rubric preview URL, I will need to temporarily turn back on the Nav block and then turn it back off (I am my own Admin). This is getting awkward and cumbersome. (Making the Nav block visible only to Admins and Teachers has its own issues as well.)

            FWIW my +1 for an option to show inside the assignment description area a link to open the rubric preview in a new browser tab or pop-up window or simply to include the full rubric inside the assignment description would be great!!!

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            Stephen Overall added a comment - As a workaround, I have been manually creating in the Assignment description field a hyperlink to the rubric preview by copying the rubric preview URL (for example, http://www.somesite.edu/yourmoodle/grade/grading/form/rubric/preview.php?areaid=33 ) from the link now appearing on the Navigation block. So then the learner can click and the link opens in another browser tab. This procedure is time-consuming for me, but it is clear to the student. However, now I've decided for this Fall semester to turn off the Navigation block entirely (too much confusing firepower for my students even with all Nav block settings at their minimums) replacing the Nav block with the much simpler Courses and Course Contents blocks. So now to find the rubric preview URL, I will need to temporarily turn back on the Nav block and then turn it back off (I am my own Admin). This is getting awkward and cumbersome. (Making the Nav block visible only to Admins and Teachers has its own issues as well.) FWIW my +1 for an option to show inside the assignment description area a link to open the rubric preview in a new browser tab or pop-up window or simply to include the full rubric inside the assignment description would be great!!!
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            Eric Strom added a comment -

            I agree with Stephen's comments. I would suggest setting this tracker item as a duplicate of http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-32222 which appears to be farther in line on the planning board to get addressed. If folks agree, perhaps then 32222 needs to also indicate the issue is blocked by 34310 also.

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            Eric Strom added a comment - I agree with Stephen's comments. I would suggest setting this tracker item as a duplicate of http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-32222 which appears to be farther in line on the planning board to get addressed. If folks agree, perhaps then 32222 needs to also indicate the issue is blocked by 34310 also.
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            Stephen Overall added a comment -

            Just found the solution to my own turning-Nav-block-off problem: the URL to the rubric preview is available by clicking in the Assignment Settings block > Advanced Grading > Define Rubric screen.

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            Stephen Overall added a comment - Just found the solution to my own turning-Nav-block-off problem: the URL to the rubric preview is available by clicking in the Assignment Settings block > Advanced Grading > Define Rubric screen.
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            Raymond Antonio added a comment -

            Hi Damyon and llywelyn,

            This is a patch for this tracker and it sits on my github repo : MDL-34088
            https://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle/tree/MDL-34088

            and here is the diff:

            https://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle/commit/957cc5932e8909802f7a460cfef9737e11aecc82

            Cheers

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            Raymond Antonio added a comment - Hi Damyon and llywelyn, This is a patch for this tracker and it sits on my github repo : MDL-34088 https://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle/tree/MDL-34088 and here is the diff: https://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle/commit/957cc5932e8909802f7a460cfef9737e11aecc82 Cheers
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            Damyon Wiese added a comment -

            Thanks Raymond, this needs rebasing to fix conflicts with the team assignment changes.

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            Damyon Wiese added a comment - Thanks Raymond, this needs rebasing to fix conflicts with the team assignment changes.
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            Raymond Antonio added a comment - - edited

            Hi Damyon,

            Thank you for your comment. I've just finished rebasing this and the details are as follows:
            1. This the repo
            git://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle.git
            2. This is the branch
            MDL-34088
            And this is the updated diff :
            nb: white space has been removed

            https://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle/commit/ec32d06834d16e24be6ec1a80864924e83d8daf2

            Cheers

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            Raymond Antonio added a comment - - edited Hi Damyon, Thank you for your comment. I've just finished rebasing this and the details are as follows: 1. This the repo git://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle.git 2. This is the branch MDL-34088 And this is the updated diff : nb: white space has been removed https://github.com/raymondAntonio/moodle/commit/ec32d06834d16e24be6ec1a80864924e83d8daf2 Cheers
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            Damyon Wiese added a comment -

            Thanks Raymond, This looks ready to go.

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            Damyon Wiese added a comment - Thanks Raymond, This looks ready to go.
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            Sam Hemelryk added a comment -

            Thanks Raymond + Damyon, this has been integrated now

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            Sam Hemelryk added a comment - Thanks Raymond + Damyon, this has been integrated now
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            Rajesh Taneja added a comment -

            Grading form is visible before and after assignment.

            Thanks for improving this, Damyon.

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            Rajesh Taneja added a comment - Grading form is visible before and after assignment. Thanks for improving this, Damyon.
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            Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment -

            Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo - Ovidio

            This issue has been integrated upstream and is now available both via git and cvs (and in some hours, via mirrors and downloads).

            Thanks!

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            Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment - Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo - Ovidio This issue has been integrated upstream and is now available both via git and cvs (and in some hours, via mirrors and downloads). Thanks!
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            Mary Cooch added a comment - - edited

            Removing docs_required label as this has been documented here #4 http://docs.moodle.org/24/en/Rubrics and here #6 http://docs.moodle.org/24/en/Advanced_grading_methods and here #7 http://docs.moodle.org/24/en/Marking_guide

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            Mary Cooch added a comment - - edited Removing docs_required label as this has been documented here #4 http://docs.moodle.org/24/en/Rubrics and here #6 http://docs.moodle.org/24/en/Advanced_grading_methods and here #7 http://docs.moodle.org/24/en/Marking_guide
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            Justin Litalien added a comment -

            While the Rubric displays the maximum point value per criteria, the Marking Guides do not. What do people think about adjusting the Marking Guide so their max values are displayed? This would be great information to students, and if its already being used for Rubrics, why not marking guides?

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            Justin Litalien added a comment - While the Rubric displays the maximum point value per criteria, the Marking Guides do not. What do people think about adjusting the Marking Guide so their max values are displayed? This would be great information to students, and if its already being used for Rubrics, why not marking guides?

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