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    • Type: Sub-task
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Minor
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • Affects Version/s: 2.3.6, 2.4, 2.5
    • Fix Version/s: 2.3.8, 2.4.5, 2.5.1
    • Component/s: Course
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      We found that the title 'Groups' for the section in course administration settings form is been misunderstood very often by German teachers. We want to change the name in German language pack to 'Default settings for group work'. Well, this is no problem generally but we found that the same string is used also at other locations like enrol/users.php?id=x table header.

      Please create a new languagestrig that is used as name for section only.

      This is specially relevant in Moodle 2.5 when sections are closed by default and we need very well understandable section names

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Thanks Ralf, agreed lang strings shouldn't be shared like this.

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Thanks Ralf, agreed lang strings shouldn't be shared like this.
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Fred - do you want to take this? (I will do it, just worried about conflicting with your stuff).

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Fred - do you want to take this? (I will do it, just worried about conflicting with your stuff).
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            fred Frédéric Massart added a comment -

            I'll leave that to you Dan, I know it's only a string change but I don't have much time to wrap things up. (It will conflict yes, but not sure the course settings issue will get integrated soon).

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            fred Frédéric Massart added a comment - I'll leave that to you Dan, I know it's only a string change but I don't have much time to wrap things up. (It will conflict yes, but not sure the course settings issue will get integrated soon).
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Helen,

            Just adding you here to ask if you think there should be a better name for it in english too?

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Helen, Just adding you here to ask if you think there should be a better name for it in english too?
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            tsala Helen Foster added a comment -

            Dan, thanks for adding me as a watcher. I suggest we go for implementing the improvement MDL-38577, rather than changing the section name.

            'Default settings for group work' doesn't exactly cover it, since the groups settings also control whether groups are displayed on the participants page, gradebook etc. Also, all the section names are very short - only one or two words. (The section name 'Formatting options for Weekly format' is due to be removed.) I can't think of a better short description in English for the groups settings than what we currently have.

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            tsala Helen Foster added a comment - Dan, thanks for adding me as a watcher. I suggest we go for implementing the improvement MDL-38577 , rather than changing the section name. 'Default settings for group work' doesn't exactly cover it, since the groups settings also control whether groups are displayed on the participants page, gradebook etc. Also, all the section names are very short - only one or two words. (The section name 'Formatting options for Weekly format' is due to be removed.) I can't think of a better short description in English for the groups settings than what we currently have.
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Ok, so i'll just split these into two different strings to help translators, but keep the strings the same. Sound OK?

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Ok, so i'll just split these into two different strings to help translators, but keep the strings the same. Sound OK?
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            ralfh Ralf Hilgenstock added a comment -

            Dan, Helen
            That would be helpfull for us.

            @Helen we found that two or three word sction names are understandable much better than one word names. Through the changes in 2.5 with collapsable sections the names of the sections are much more relevant for users orientation than before. We think also about not experienced user and non native users with english interface

            Ralf.

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            ralfh Ralf Hilgenstock added a comment - Dan, Helen That would be helpfull for us. @Helen we found that two or three word sction names are understandable much better than one word names. Through the changes in 2.5 with collapsable sections the names of the sections are much more relevant for users orientation than before. We think also about not experienced user and non native users with english interface Ralf.
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Putting up for peer review, I spent a while trying to think of a good string identifier and din't really get one.

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Putting up for peer review, I spent a while trying to think of a good string identifier and din't really get one.
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            fred Frédéric Massart added a comment -

            Looks good to me Dan, I just wonder if AMOS expects the component to start with core_. I also checked that the header was not used in the module settings, and it's not. Feel free to push for integration.

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            fred Frédéric Massart added a comment - Looks good to me Dan, I just wonder if AMOS expects the component to start with core_. I also checked that the header was not used in the module settings, and it's not. Feel free to push for integration.
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Thanks Fred - I've added David here - david, does the AMOS script need core_group?

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Thanks Fred - I've added David here - david, does the AMOS script need core_group?
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            mudrd8mz David Mudrák added a comment -

            AMOS handles well with both "group" and "core_group". I prefer DEVs using the full frankenstyle name everywhere (in get_string() as well as in AMOScript) but the legacy non-prefixed form is valid.

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            mudrd8mz David Mudrák added a comment - AMOS handles well with both "group" and "core_group". I prefer DEVs using the full frankenstyle name everywhere (in get_string() as well as in AMOScript) but the legacy non-prefixed form is valid.
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            (oops, dropped the ball on this)

            Sending for integration.

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - (oops, dropped the ball on this) Sending for integration.
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            stronk7 Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment -

            Integrated (23, 24, 25 & master), thanks!

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            stronk7 Eloy Lafuente (stronk7) added a comment - Integrated (23, 24, 25 & master), thanks!
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            markn Mark Nelson added a comment -

            Working as expected, thanks. Passing.

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            markn Mark Nelson added a comment - Working as expected, thanks. Passing.
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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment -

            Feature: Thanks to our superb contributors
              In order to make Moodle better
              As an integrator
              I need to thank all our contributors
             
              Scenario: Dan thanks you all
                Given I log in as "dan"
                And I see "lots of fixed issues"
                When I follow "Close integrated issues"
                Then I should see "Lots of thanks to all our contributors"
            

            Your changes are upstream

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            poltawski Dan Poltawski added a comment - Feature: Thanks to our superb contributors In order to make Moodle better As an integrator I need to thank all our contributors   Scenario: Dan thanks you all Given I log in as "dan" And I see "lots of fixed issues" When I follow "Close integrated issues" Then I should see "Lots of thanks to all our contributors" Your changes are upstream

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                  8/Jul/13