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Bug
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Resolution: Unresolved
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Minor
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None
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4.3, 4.4
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MOODLE_403_STABLE, MOODLE_404_STABLE
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MDL-80433-main
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As a course creator/teacher.
- Create a course
- Create a group and edit its settings
- Untick "Show group in dropdown menu for activities in group mode"
- Add users to this group
- Add an assignment to the course and make its "Group submission settings" "Students submit in groups"->"yes" and save.
- See an notification saying "Some of the groups' setting do not allow group members to see their group's peers".
- If there are some participant left not assigned to any group, see the "The setting 'Students submit in groups' is enabled and some users are either not a member of any group, or are a member of more than one group. Please be aware that these students will submit as members of the 'Default group'." notification (as with previous version.
As a Student registered in the previously created goup:
- Open the assignement
- see the "This assignment requires submission in groups. The group you are member of does not allow viewing the other particpant, so you cannot create a submission. Please contact your teacher to fix this issue. " notification.
- In the table see "This group does not allow to view other members" below the group name in the assignment sumary table.
- Assignement button are also removed to prevent confusion.
As a course creator/teacher. Create a course Create a group and edit its settings Untick "Show group in dropdown menu for activities in group mode" Add users to this group Add an assignment to the course and make its "Group submission settings" "Students submit in groups"->"yes" and save. See an notification saying "Some of the groups' setting do not allow group members to see their group's peers". If there are some participant left not assigned to any group, see the "The setting 'Students submit in groups' is enabled and some users are either not a member of any group, or are a member of more than one group. Please be aware that these students will submit as members of the 'Default group'." notification (as with previous version. As a Student registered in the previously created goup: Open the assignement see the "This assignment requires submission in groups. The group you are member of does not allow viewing the other particpant, so you cannot create a submission. Please contact your teacher to fix this issue. " notification. In the table see "This group does not allow to view other members" below the group name in the assignment sumary table. Assignement button are also removed to prevent confusion.
ABSTRACT:
When the "Show group in dropdown menu for activities in group mode" is set to FALSE (manually unticked, when group membership visibility is "Visible" or "Only visible to member", or automatically when "only see own membership" or "Hidden").
The error notifications displayed under the Assignment's "Grading summary" to teachers and to the students are misleading and do not match the use case :
"The setting 'Require group to make submission' is enabled and some users are either not a member of any group, or are a member of more than one group, so are unable to make submissions."
The setting 'Students submit in groups' is enabled and some users are either not a member of any group, or are a member of more than one group. Please be aware that these students will submit as members of the 'Default group'.
".. You are not a member of any group, so you cannot make submission...." (student view)
Even though it is not the case that "some users are either not a member of any group, or are a member of more than one group".
REPRODUCE :
1. In a group's settings untick the "Show group in dropdown menu for activities in group mode"
2. Add a user(s) to the group :
3. Create an Assignment activity and set the "Group submission settings" to true (Yes)
3.1 with "Require group to make submission":
EDITOR's view :
STUDENT'S (event though belonging to the "TestGroup")
3.2 Without "Require group to make submission":
EDITOR'S VIEW:
STUDENT'S VIEW: (event though belonging to the "TestGroup")
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS:
With those notification there are no ways to understand that in order to allow group submission in Assignment groups must be set with "Show group in dropdown menu for activities in group mode" ticked.
EXPECTED:
A notification allowing to clearly grasp the issue and pointing to corrected settings.
SOLUTION:
Not sure yet...
Simplest could be add in the Editor's notifications ('ungroupedusers' and 'ungroupedusersoptional') the following sentence (in red):
"... and some users are either not a member of any group, or are a member of more than one group"
with ", or some of the groups' setting do not allow group members to see their group's membership, ...".
- has been marked as being related by
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MDL-68093 Membership in some groups should be hidden from some roles for FERPA/ADA compliance (data privacy issue)
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- Closed
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